A zine I made expressing my feelings about how Goncharov has shown the way for a new kind of storytelling--seriously.

There is so much more I wanted to say than could be put into a mere 8 pages--and I expect one day I will say it all--but I wanted to make something small as a precursor to my next (and, really, first) major project. 

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Author23 Dogs in a Trenchcoat
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oh i really really loved this!!! goncharov as a modern fairytale ahhh!! you're absolutely right, art is a fundamental part of humanity and we should not be relying on stakeholders and corporations to only tell us stories that benefit them

I'm so glad you enjoyed this! I hope it inspires you to make something, maybe with a community, maybe on your own! Art really is a fundamental part of humanity. We should tell the stories we want to see in the world rather than waiting for some corporation to give us a sanitized version of them. 

Thank you so much for reading! Comments like this mean the world to me. 

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I really like the empowering message and the idea that collective creations actually affords more expression space to individual creators. I think, like you said, that the fact that it's a joke also lightens up the gravity of the creative act, makes it "just playing pretend", not only when accessing to the lore of the work but also when adding to it. It brings an element of play into the creative act, which helps make it more accessible - make people forget that they are "arting" even if they think they're just "memeing". 

But also, I'm not sure people are waiting for anyone to give them permission. Sure, there's a lot of focus on individuals with regards to creation; but also, creation is hard. You have to create a lot of small and simple things before you can step up to some more complex and ambitious stuff; and most people see the works they love and want to replicate them - and the discrepancy between their goal and what they're capable of (just yet) creates a daunting inertia that is very hard to overcome. Playful creation helps alleviate that, and gives a drive to make this myriad of simpler things, so that you almost sneak up on yourself: when you want to make more ambitious stuff instead of just playing around, you've played around so much that you are now able to achieve it, and you can keep playing around - which also makes it easier to undertake the more ambitious works.

Collaborative, artistic (unknowingly?) efforts are also rather common actually; Goncharov is very much our present in that sense. I think so much of the memes that are produced and iterated upon can qualify as a form of artistic expression and can help playfully develop a voice and skills; more directly, the Backrooms and the SCPs are sprawling examples of that as well (very similar to Goncharov in their folklore/community effort aspect and maybe more evidently creative). Game modding, fan fictions and romhacks also help a lot - but it's less collective than Goncharov and more directly artistic. 

But I think the fact that it's a form of art that is seen as lesser helps with the dedramatization, the idea that, "oh, I can't do something like that, but this, I can do. I'm just creating a mod." And that gives an intermediate step - you don't have to make something big from the ground up, but you're still able to create something very close to your inspirations.

So to me it's less about waiting for a permission (even though, of course, as you said, there is the feeling of illegitimacy that can add to the paralysis), and more about finding a way to get creating that doesn't feel overwhelming and that's accessible to your skillset, while dodging some of the frustration that comes from limiting your ambition and your scope at first. But that's just a (491 words) nitpick.

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Thanks for the feedback! I completely agree that a major reason why people don’t make the things they want to is because the idea is too big, I’ve certainly been there. Having smaller, less “important” projects to work on is a crucial part of growing as an artist. I am aware that Goncharov is not the first or only work like this. I wanted to focus on Goncharov because of the smaller scope of this zine, but I said in the description that I wanted to elaborate on that concept, and part of that elaboration will definitely be talking about stuff like SCP Foundation and even an earlier “fandom for a work that doesn’t exist”, Ships of the Northern Fleet. Now that you’ve mentioned it, I definitely want to talk about how collaborative, low-stakes works like these allow people to start making art without the daunting task of building something from scratch, with credit to you of course! Thank you so much for commenting. I hope you got something out of reading my little zine!

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I enjoyed reading it, of course! It's really like an interesting little video essay, and well-written. I wouldn't have typed this long-winded reply if I hadn't liked it! I really love the "collective, unspoken roleplaying" aspect of emergent phenomenons like these "fandoms for stuff that doesn't exist" - just so many people pretending and being in on a joke. Something about it resonates with me. It's like the whole "brass kingdom" thing as well! It feels immersive, in a way, like opening the door to an alternate reality, and getting to live slices of the daily life like it is in that other world. It's a feeling like a change of scenery, exploring something new yet familiar, in a similar way to immersive experiences like videogames can provide (cultist simulator, potioncraft, monster hunter come to mind), some LARPs, or long-form, continuous, collective roleplaying experiences (to a much stronger degree I think). It's like there's this critical mass of immersion for a joke to turn into this little pocket universe that you can actually live in, even if it's just pretend, if enough people are in on it, it's undistinguishable from reality. (Sorry now I'm just musing.)

Of course, you were right to focus on it! It is a very fascinating topic! I'm looking forwards to your follow-ups!

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Thank you! I’m excited to write more about it at some point. And I really appreciate hearing what you have to say! Getting such thoughtful comments on my work really means the world to me!